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Flowers / YMCA FAQs

As our Club Members are aware we have provided a 60 days’ notice of our intent to gift the Club to the YMCA of the Triangle as well as the green space to the east which will be used for YMCA parks and recreation activities.

This gift is given with excitement, to provide expanded programs for all residents, current members and the community who wish to participate in the YMCA’s extensive adult, youth and family programming. These programs include personal training, health and wellness programs, group fitness classes, after school care, summer day camps, aquatics programs, volunteer opportunities and more.

We understand there are a lot of questions about this change to our Club. We are listening to our members and using this page as a way to answers questions that arise.

The YMCA hopes to begin providing modified, free community group fitness classes outside potentially as early as July. Full YMCA programming will begin in the fall after the transfer of ownership as restrictions are lifted from the pandemic.

For more information and to sign up for updates from the YMCA CLICK HERE.

FAQs

You don’t have to do anything. Our accounting department is working this week, June 22, 2020, to issue statements and refunds.
 
With over 700 accounts, we will do our best to send accurate account information. However if for any reason, you do not believe your statement is correct, please email: Info@FlowersPlantation.com.

We are making every effort to have refund distributed by July 2, 2020.

You will receive pro-rated monthly fees for the months, days, for which you paid and could not use the club due to COVID-19 closure. There are 11 days of March 2020.

Johnston County has seen over 200 new cases of COVID-19 in the last week.  The liability for the owner and the risks for the family is much too great to open at this time.

YES!  The YMCA is planning now a series of outside programs and will be announcing shortly. We will also post those.

Your fastest method to stay abreast of the information is to go to: www.YMCATriangle.Org/Pineville. A phone number (919) 719-9622 as a secondary method will not be as expedient as the site. A third method to get your YMCA questions answered is through the email: CustomerService@YMCATriangle.org.

The many changes in Flowers Plantation has raised values for over 30 years!  The pace is getting greater and there are many new announcements to come!  We do not have a “Tool” to gauge the present transition. We anticipate that the change should do nothing but give rise to more marketing and activity and interest in this area. If any resident believes otherwise we would be happy to review any evidence that home values have been negatively affected.

The Bar will transition to the Dr. Watson Inn. There will be a catered meal weekly for those who wish to make reservations. Announcements will be coming soon.

There is not a definite date for inside activities due to the COVID-19 restrictions and increase in numbers of cases. However, stay abreast of thehttps://www.YMCATriangle.org/Pineville to keep updated.

The Owner of the Club is gifting the club for the benefit of the families and their enjoyment of a much broader program of amenities. Everyone in The Village was made aware by notice approximately three weeks ago. This notice may be found on the Flowers Plantation website under The Pineville Club title.

The Club was never a private club as was originally intended. The Village Residents did not wish to carry the fees required to operate at that level. Therefore, non-resident memberships have always been offered. Complaints continue in regard to how “HIGH” the monthly family dues cost.

Parking needs currently will be met by the present parking lot and the larger parking area to the northeast that was paved approximately two years ago. The area just outside of Savannah Lane on The Pineville Boulevard may be used for a short term, if needed,  prior to the completion of adding additionally the new parking area that was planned at the conception of the Club  and is available for additional parking, when needed.

Yes….If the Village residents wish to continue with the Village covenants and the monthly fees attached, even though the NW Flowers Parkway,  The Village Boulevard, nor Beckwith Avenue expense is not being carried by the Village residents, then yes!  The Club was annexed both into the Village and The Foundation. It has paid dues since it was opened. The formula is based on 37 instead of 1 per homeowner. In 2020… The Club paid $6,671 as its’ annual January contribution to the Foundation and in monthly payments a total of $19,980  to The Village.

Currently these roads are NOT fully funded by the dues collected from the residents. There are dues from The Club to both The Flowers Plantation Foundation, Inc. and The Village HOA, Inc. in monthly dues payments. Refer to question 4. The YMCA would continue paying the amounts stated;  that have been paid since the club opened in 2008.

The residents wished to have a private club…the owner tried for 12 years to have enough Village memberships to go private.  The pools at individual homes in the future may be considered but it is not a condition of the transition or the dissolution of the Village.  If the residents wish to continue with the Village and the monthly expenses, it is approved by the Declarant and owner of the Club.

Architectural matters will always require Declarant approval if on the exterior to the residence.

The decision on the gates is at least 30 days away., so we will use August 15, 2020…and there are two scenarios that will need to be reviewed in where gates are placed.

The gates at 42 E and Buffalo may still be closed at 9 pm and open at 5 am., depending on if the Village is dissolved. They may still operate if the Village is not dissolved and no individual gates are installed by the Declarant.

There will be no impact on the Flowers Plantation Foundation, Inc. dues, as they are scheduled over the next few years per last year’s budget review to increase 5% annually. However, there are approximately 400 new homes being annexed annually to assist in offsetting the increases in large amounts or assessments. Remember dues are not paid to the Foundation but once per year and they are paid based on the lots recorded, not vacant land. Open spaces, recreational spaces are not taxed. The 40 acres of lakes for pedestrian trails will be annexed into the Foundation over the next year for residents to walk. They are recreational and open space.

There will be NO Village dues. They are presently $45/month or $540/annually per homeowner. 

Parking needs currently will be met by the present parking lot and the larger parking area to the northeast that was paved approximately two years ago. The area just outside of Savannah Lane on The Pineville Boulevard may be used for a short term, if needed,  prior to the completion of adding additionally the new parking area that was planned at the conception of the Club  and is available for additional parking, when needed.

Cars will be monitored as they are now. The YMCA will be aware and will adhere to all our covenants and regulations.

The parkways, such as Village Blvd., NW Flowers Parkway, Beckwith, Savannah are private, meaning they are not regulated and traveled or maintained by NC DOT. However, they have never been private to the Village since construction.

Wear and tear of the private parkways depends on what decision is made in regard to The Flowers Plantation Foundation, Inc. or The Village continuing to maintain these parkways. The Club, The Inn both pay more than the one unit per family. The club pays 37 x the annual assessment and the monthly $45.00/Village dues and the Inn pays 3 times for each.

The YMCA plans to offer after school care at the club, however, there is no decision if it will be discontinued at the River Dell Elementary. It is doubtful it will be discontinued, however.

Installation date for gates not determined. If Village remains, there will be no more gates.

The details as to the maintenance expense of the gates annually depend on the number of motors, a slider vs two individual and the high figure for annual maintenance used to be over the top is $5000/annually.

The HOA will maintain the gates with the money reimbursed from the Village.

The gate will be turned over to Evergreen and Cottages at Evergreen at the time the Village is dissolved.  If the Village is not dissolved the Village will continue to maintain.

When the gate is turned over to the HOAs, Evergreen and Cottages at Evergreen will be responsible for the Gate.

Architectural matters will always require Declarant approval if on the exterior to the residence.

If the Village were dissolved, the Village declaration would be void and of no effect. The architectural and use restrictions contained in the Village declaration would be guidelines that would be subject to the overall governance of the Foundation and Declarant.


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